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Asana: All Pain, No Gains – C-Suite Transitions

  • September 19, 2024

Asana is the Sanskrit word for the sitting meditation pose. Over the centuries the meaning of the word evolved to imply various yoga poses. Asana (ASAN), the project management software company founded by Facebook’s Co-founder Dustin Moskovitz, also evolved by expanding its product offering much like Datadog (DDOG) did by entering adjacent markets.

Asana pose

 

When I first came across the company in 2021 on account of Mr. Moskovitz’s insider purchases, Asana was growing revenue more than 60% year-over-year and was trading at 31 times sales. The stock is now trading at less than four times sales and revenue growth last quarter was 10% with a net customer retention rate of just 98%.

Investors were patient with companies as long as revenue growth provided a path to eventual GAAP profitability and as long as the company was free cash flow positive. That paradigm shifted in 2022 and as discussed in our May 2022 article Capitulation or Forced Selling, Uber’s new CEO Dara Khosrowshahi got the message loud and clear that growth at all costs was no longer going to work.

Last week Asana appointed Sonalee Parekh as its new CFO following the departure of long-serving CFO Tim Wan. Hopefully Ms. Parekh, with her investment banking background, helps Asana rise from its sitting pose.

Asana (ASAN): $11.92

Market Cap: $2.77B

Enterprise Value: $2.52B

Key Insights:

  • Asana replaces longtime CFO Tim Wan with RingCentral’s Sonalee Parekh effective September 11, 2024.
  • Asana beat consensus estimates on both the top and bottom lines but fiscal Q3 revenue guidance was below estimates.
  • Free cash flow in Q2 was $12.8 million and the company is guiding to a non-GAAP operating profit for the full year.
  • Customers spending $100k or more on an annualized basis grew 17% year over year.
  • Net Revenue Retention Rate: 98%, down from 100% in the previous quarter.
  • Dustin Moskovitz has indicated that he plans to purchase 13.5 million shares through a 10b5-1 trading plan.

Company Profile

Asana company logo

Asana is a global work management platform that streamlines task coordination, project management, and progress tracking, offering real-time insights across various workflows. Founded in 2008 as Smiley Abstractions, Inc., it rebranded to Asana, Inc. in 2009 and is based in San Francisco. Asana went public via a direct listing on September 30, 2020.

Brands Asana

 

Asana appoints a new CFO

Sonalee ParekhOn September 3, 2024, Asana announced as part of its latest earnings call the appointment of Sonalee Parekh as its new Chief Financial Officer, effective September 11, 2024. According to the press release, Ms. Parekh, who brings over 25 years of experience in the technology and banking sectors, previously served as CFO at RingCentral (RNG).

During her tenure at RingCentral, revenue growth rate moderated but GAAP losses shrunk and free cash flow increased significantly from $158.6 million to over $402 million during the trailing twelve months. RingCentral’s stock, on the other hand, lost more than half its value during her time there.

Before RingCentral, Ms. Parekh was Divisional CFO at Hewlett Packard Enterprise, where she played a crucial role in the company’s transition to an as-a-service business model and managed key acquisitions. Her extensive experience also includes senior roles at Goldman Sachs, Jefferies, and Barclays Capital.

Tim WanMs. Parekh succeeds Tim Wan, who has been with Asana since 2017 and was instrumental in driving significant growth, increasing revenue to over $689 million and expanding the team from under 300 to nearly 2,000 employees. Mr. Wan will continue to support Asana in an advisory capacity during the transition.

But why her? Sonalee Parekh’s appointment isn’t just a routine executive shuffle—it hints at a bigger play. With a resume boasting senior roles at Goldman Sachs, Jefferies, and Barclays Capital, along with hands-on experience managing acquisitions at RingCentral, Ms. Parekh brings a skill set tailored for M&A. Her arrival could mean that Asana is gearing up to increase acquisitions or explore strategic options, including a sale of the company.

Smartsheet (SMAR) is a pre-deal situation we are tracking after the company hired Qatalyst Partners in July after receiving interest from private equity firms.

Compensation

Ms. Parekh will receive an annual base salary of $750k and a $15 million equity grant in restricted stock units (RSUs). The RSUs will vest according to the company’s 2020 Equity Incentive Plan, with 35% vesting on the first anniversary of the vesting commencement date (VCD). An additional 30% will vest quarterly between the first and second anniversaries of the VCD, 20% will vest quarterly between the second and third anniversaries, and the remaining 15% will vest quarterly between the third and fourth anniversaries

Asana’s CEO Dustin Moskovitz clarified that CFO Tim Wan’s departure was part of a long-planned transition, not a reaction to current events. Mr. Wan confirmed that his departure, after nearly eight years with Asana, was driven by his need to take time off and reflect on his future.

Dustin Moskovitz’s Unusual Insider Purchases

Dustin Moskovitz Insider Purchases

We previously highlighted Mr. Moskovitz’s consistent activity in purchasing shares, including his participation in a secondary offering in September 2022 when I wrote:

About a year ago, Mr. Moskovitz was actively purchasing shares of Asana at prices sometimes approaching $100 per share. Despite the nearly 34% gain in the stock during the last five days after the company released earnings that beat expectations, the stock is still down 75% over the last year as the company continues to post losses and growth decelerates.

Unlike certain SaaS companies that post net losses but are cash flow positive, Asana is posting negative cash flows having burnt through $164 million in cash during the trailing twelve months. At this rate, the company would have been out of cash in a year. This cash from the private placement allows the company to extend its runway as it continues to prioritize revenue growth over bottom line profitability.

wrote the following about the company in June 2021 after a series of insider purchases by Mr. Moskovitz.

Dustin Moskovitz is one of the co-founders of Facebook, making him the youngest self-made billionaire in history in 2011.  He co-founded the productivity software company, Asana, in 2008 and the company went public through a direct listing on September 30, 2020. The “reference price” for the direct listing was $21 and it closed its first day of trading at $28.80. It has more than doubled from that first day close to $62.73.

While it is unusual for insiders of a newly public company to buy shares as we highlighted with the Bumble purchases, it is even more unusual to see an insider buy shares multiple times though a defined trading plan (a 10b5-1 plan) as we have seen with Mr. Moskovitz since June 2021. The stock is already up more than $20 a share since he started buying shares. Asana’s market cap is a little over $10 billion and Mr. Moskovitz’s net worth is estimated to be over $21 billion.

There are many productivity software companies out there including Monday.com, Smartsheet (SMAR) and Atlassian (TEAM). I was an early adopter of Smartsheet (before Office 365 made Excel online a viable competitor), have held Atlassian shares for several years and nearly two decades ago wrote most of the code for an online project management module in an enterprise software application that is still in use. The barriers to entry appear low from the outside but the highly competitive nature of this industry makes it difficult for new entrants to gain enough traction to unseat incumbents unless the product is sufficiently unique or there is a lot of capital backing the company.

This Twitter thread by the CEO of a company that was an Asana competitor provides a fascinating inside look into just how competitive this little area of the software industry can be. The thread is long but the screenshot below is the money shot as it relates to Asana and Mr. Moskovitz.

Given the nature of this little niche and Asana’s valuation (31 times estimated 2021 sales), I would prefer to watch how the Asana story unfolds from the sidelines despite Mr. Moskovitz’s enthusiasm for the stock.

Andrew Wilkinson's Asana Thread

Asana’s valuation has come down to earth since I wrote that article last year and the stock now trades at 9.55 forward sales instead of the 31 times sales it was trading at last year. I still can’t muster enough enthusiasm for the stock as there are several other high growth technology companies that have dropped to valuations that make them look attractive at current levels including our portfolio companies Twilio (TWLO) and Coursera (COUR). I’ll continue to monitor Asana to see if the company can become a true platform company and if the market offers it at more attractive levels.

The stock continued to trend lower since that September 2022 secondary offering and finally appears to have  bottomed below $12 this year.

In the latest earnings report, Mr. Moskovitz announced plans to purchase up to 13.5 million shares, citing his belief that Asana’s shares are undervalued.

Asana Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

Buybacks

On June 20, 2024, Asana announced that it plans to repurchase up to $150 million of its Class A common stock through June 30, 2025, representing nearly 6% of the company’s market cap at announcement. In Q2, Asana repurchased $19.7 million worth of its shares under this program, at an average price of $13.64 per share.

In response to an analyst’s concern that frequent stock buybacks might suggest operational issues, Dustin Moskovitz clarified that their buyback plans are scheduled in advance and not driven by short-term market changes. He views the market as stabilizing and believes the new buyback plan, unlike last year’s, is a strategic decision rather than a response to operational or financial concerns.

Over the last three years the company’s shares outstanding have increased by nearly 35% on account of a combination of stock-based compensation and the $350 million private placement in 2022 through the sale of 19.27 million shares to Dustin Moskovitz. Stock-based compensation over the last four quarters was $213.47 million.

Asana Shares Outstanding Through July 2024

Financials

Asana’s stock has declined by 33.65% over the past year. The company’s market capitalization stands at $2.77 billion, while its enterprise value is $2.52 billion. Additionally, Asana holds $246.43 million in net cash.

Asana Revenue

 

Gross margin and Operating margin

 

Asana reported a GAAP operating loss of $76.8 million, representing 43% of revenues, compared to a GAAP operating loss of $73.4 million, or 45% of revenues, in the previous quarter. Its non-GAAP operating loss was $15.7 million, or 9% of revenues, up from $10.4 million, or 6% of revenues, in the second quarter of fiscal 2024.

Customer growth

In the earnings call, former CFO Tim Wan reported that Q2 revenues reached $179.2 million, marking a 10% year-over-year increase. The company now has 22,948 core customers, those spending $5,000 or more annually, with their revenue growing 11% year-over-year and representing 75% of Q2 revenues, up from 74% a year ago.

The number of high-spending customers ($100,000+ annually) rose by 17% to 649 a possible sign of momentum in high-value customers. Dollar-based net retention rate was 98% overall, 99% for core customers, and 103% for high-spending customers. Tim Wan noted that while these retention rates are trailing indicators, current trends suggest a stabilization point for the dollar-based net retention rate in Q2.

The median dollar-based net retention rate for successful SaaS companies is expected to be 110%.

Net retention rate

Balance Sheet and Cash Flow Summary

Asana’s balance sheet showed strong liquidity with $521.6 million in cash and marketable securities.  Deferred revenue was $289.2 million, up 11% year-over-year. Free cash flow for the quarter was positive at $12.8 million, representing a 7% FCF margin.

Peer Comparison

The closest competitor for Asana is Monday.com (MNDY), which has been absolutely trouncing Asana with its growth. The market has rewarded with a market cap that is nearly five times that of Asana and the stock is trading at 15 times trailing sales.

Monday.com has delivered impressive results, reporting $160.4 million in revenue for Q2 2024—a 42% jump from the previous year. Additionally, Monday.com reported EBITDA of $17.3 million and free cash flow of $15.6 million, highlighting its ability to generate free cash flow while maintaining a high growth rate.

Despite these difficulties, Asana is focusing on expanding its AI capabilities and scaling its product offerings.

Peer Comparison Asana

Financial Outlook

  • Q3 FY 2025 Guidance (fiscal year ends in January 2025):
    • Revenues: $180M–$181M (+8% to +9% YoY).
    • Non-GAAP Operating Loss: $19M–$18M (10% margin at midpoint).
    • Non-GAAP Net Loss Per Share: $0.07 (based on 227M shares).
  • FY 2025 Full-Year Guidance:
    • Revenues: $719M–$721M (+10% YoY).
    • Non-GAAP Operating Loss: $58M–$55M (8% margin at midpoint).
    • Non-GAAP Net Loss Per Share: $0.20–$0.19 (based on 227M shares).

Compared to previous quarter guidance, Asana slightly narrowed its revenue forecast to $719.0-$721.0 million from $719.0-$724.0 million and improved its non-GAAP operating loss estimate to $58.0-$55.0 million from $59.0-$55.0 million. The non-GAAP net loss per share remains at $0.20-$0.19. The earlier guidance also included a positive free cash flow expectation, which is not mentioned in the updated forecast.

Earnings call Highlights (Transcript)

  • Asana expects business stabilization and growth following the lapping of major renewal downgrade. They anticipated some Q2 deals shifting to Q3 but remaining in the pipeline, indicating a bottoming out of their gross renewal rate.
  • Double down on AI: Asana is intensifying its AI focus, with strong early adoption of its AI Teammates and AI Studio Beta programs across various sectors. CEO Moskovitz is cautiously optimistic about long-term growth due to record deals and expanded AI partnerships.
  • Free cash flow was $12.8 million, but the company anticipates a seasonal decline in Q3 and expects to see durable positive free cash flow by the end of Q4.

Conclusion

Sudden departures of C-suite executives and especially the CFO are often a red flag in our book. While Asana claims that Mr. Wan’s transition was planned for a long time, it was announced on August 28th that he was departing on September 10th.

In the past, I have not been very enthusiastic about Asana despite Mr. Moskovitz’s purchases but as I look at the company again, I think the new CFO can start to move the needle after a couple of quarters of potential weakness.

The vast chasm in valuation between Asana and Monday.com implies if Ms. Parekh can repeat what she did at RingCentral, then the market will start rewarding Asana and we will likely see multiple expansions. I plan to continue watching Asana from the sidelines but am more cautiously optimistic about the company than I was before this C-suite appointment.


Sudden departures

CEO

  1. STEM: Stem Chief Executive Officer John Carrington resigns effective September 11, 2024.
  2. GORV: Lazydays Holdings Chief Executive Officer John North resigns effective September 13, 2024.
  3. KYTX: Kyverna Therapeutics Chief Executive Officer Peter Maag resigns effective September 13, 2024.
  4. NSC: Norfolk Southern terminates Chief Executive Officer Alan H. Shaw effective September 11, 2024.
  5. MYE: Myers Industries President and Chief Executive Officer Michael McGaugh resigns effective September 9, 2024.
  6. IZEA: IZEA Worldwide Chief Executive Officer Edward H. Murphy resigns effective September 15, 2024.
  7. LEXX: Lexaria Bioscience Chief Executive Officer Christopher Bunka resigns effective August 31, 2024.
  8. BJRI: BJ`s Restaurant Chief Executive Officer and President Gregory S. Levin resigns effective August 28, 2024.
  9. LESL: Leslies Chief Executive Officer Michael R. Egeck resigns effective August 26, 2024.
  10. NSRGY: Nestlé S.A. Chief Executive Officer Mark Schneider resigns effective August 22, 2024.
  11. BATRA: Atlanta Braves President, Chief Executive Officer Gregory B. Maffei resigns effective August 31, 2024.

CFO

  1. ASAN: Asana Chief Financial Officer Tim Wan resigns effective September 10, 2024.
  2. RNG: RingCentral Chief Financial Officer Sonalee Parekh resigns effective September 10, 2024.
  3. UP: Wheels Up Experience Chief Financial Officer Todd Smith resigns effective September 6, 2024.
  4. LTRX: Lantronix Chief Financial Officer Jeremy Whitaker resigns effective September 13, 2024.
  5. GMGI: Golden Matrix Group Chief Financial Officer and Compliance Officer Omar Jimenez resigns effective September 9, 2024.
  6. CRBU: Caribou Biosciences Chief Financial Officer Jason O’Byrne resigns effective September 27, 2024.
  7. LFCR: Lifecore Biomedical Chief Financial Officer John D. Morberg resigns effective September 2, 2024.
  8. ONB: Old National Bancorp Chief Financial Officer Brendon B. Falconer resigns effective August 31, 2024.
  9. ELTX: Elicio Therapeutics Chief Financial Officer Brian Piekos resigns effective September 6, 2024.
  10. CODI: Compass Diversified Holdings Chief Financial Officer Ryan J. Faulkingham resigns effective August 30, 2024.

Chief Legal Officer

  1. NSC: Norfolk Southern terminates Chief Legal Officer Nabanita C. Nag in connection with the preliminary findings of the Board’s ongoing investigation.
  2. TNET: TriNet Group Chief Legal Officer Samantha Wellington resigns effective September 16, 2024.
  3. FREY: FREYR Battery terminates Chief Legal Officer Are L. Brautaset effective  September 30, 2024.
  4. TGNA: TEGNA Chief Legal Officer Lauren S. Fisher resigns effective September 6, 2024.

Others

  1. C: Citigroup Chief Accounting Officer Johnbull Okpara resigns effective September 10, 2024.
  2. PBI: Pitney Bowes Chief Accounting Officer Joseph Catapano resigns effective September 6, 2024.
  3. ALV: Autoliv Chief Technology Officer Jordi Lombarte resigns effective September 17, 2024.
  4. VSCO: Victoria`s Secret & Company Brand President Greg Unis resigns effective September 2, 2024.
  5. LIVN: LivaNova Chief Human Resources Officer Trui Hebbelinck resigns effective September 30, 2024.
  6. FRZA: Forza X1 President Dan Norton resigns effective September 30, 2024.
  7. IRT: Independence Realty Trust President Scott Schaeffer resigns effective September 3, 2024.
  8. DTIL: Precision Biosciences Chief Medical Officer Alan List resigns effective September 13, 2024.
  9. BLBD: Blue Bird President Britton Smith resigns effective September 28, 2024.
  10. IZEA: IZEA Worldwide President, Chief Operating Officer Ryan S. Schram resigns effective September 15, 2024.
  11. DAY: Dayforce Chief Operating Officer Christopher R. Armstrong resigns effective September 5, 2024.
  12. NVCR: NovoCure Chief Operating Officer Wilco Groenhuysen resigns effective October 1, 2024.
  13. CMTL: Comtech Telecommunications Chief Operating Officer Maria Hedden resigns effective September 13, 2024.
  14. FRPT: Freshpet  Chief Operating Officer Scott Morris resigns effective September 1, 2024.
  15. ALGT: Allegiant Travel Chief Marketing Officer Scott DeAngelo resigns effective September 30, 2024.
  16. AWRE: Aware Chief Revenue Officer Craig Herman resigns effective September 20, 2024.
  17. HOFT: Hooker Furnishings Chief Information Officer Tod R. Phelps resigns effective September 4, 2024.

Appointments

1. Microsoft Corporation (MSFT): $430.81

Carolina Dybeck Happe
On September 12, 2024, Microsoft appoints GE’s finance chief Carolina Dybeck Happe as the new Executive Vice President and Chief Operations Officer.

 

 

MarketCap: $3.21TAvg. Daily Volume (30 days): 19,813,966Revenue (TTM): $245.12B
Net Income Margin (TTM): 35.96%ROE (TTM): 37.13%Net Debt: $22.32B
P/E: 36.88Forward P/E: 32.47EV/EBIDTA (TTM): 24.94
P/S (TTM): 13.13P/B (TTM): 11.9352 Week Range: $309.45 – $468.35

2. Norfolk Southern (NSC): $249.29


On September 11, 2024, Norfolk Southern Corporation announced that the Norfolk Southern appointed Mark R. George, the company’s Chief Financial Officer, as President and Chief Executive Officer, effective immediately.

 

 

 

MarketCap: $55.86BAvg. Daily Volume (30 days): 1,207,517Revenue (TTM): $12.09B
Net Income Margin (TTM): 14.84%ROE (TTM): 14.01%Net Debt: $17.47B
P/E: 31.15Forward P/E: 18.28EV/EBIDTA (TTM): 13.15
P/S (TTM): 4.67P/B (TTM): 4.3452 Week Range: $183.09 – $263.66

3. Chipotle Mexican Grill (CMG): $56.93


On August 28, 2024, Chipotle Mexican Grill announced that Adam Rymer was appointed as Chief Financial Officer, effective October 1, 2024.

 

MarketCap: $78.96BAvg. Daily Volume (30 days): 19,116,601Revenue (TTM): $10.66B
Net Income Margin (TTM): 13.23%ROE (TTM): 43.54%Net Debt: $2.79B
P/E: 57.54Forward P/E: 42.55EV/EBIDTA (TTM): 38.17
P/S (TTM): 7.38P/B (TTM): 21.0052 Week Range: $35.37 – $69.26

4. RB Global  (RBA): $83.90


On August 28, 2024, RB Global announced the appointment of Steve Lewis as Chief Operations Officer effective September 3, 2024.

 

 

MarketCap: $15.56BAvg. Daily Volume (30 days): 1,315,616Revenue (TTM): $4.22B
Net Income Margin (TTM): 8.67%ROE (TTM): 6.61%Net Debt: $3.92B
P/E: 47.36Forward P/E: 22.52EV/EBIDTA (TTM): 16.67
P/S (TTM): 3.66P/B (TTM): 3.0052 Week Range: $58.85 – $87.45

5. Veeva Systems (VEEV): $215.48


On September 11, 2024, the board of directors of Veeva Systems appointed Brian Van Wagener as Chief Financial Officer of Veeva, effective September 16, 2024.

 

 

MarketCap: $35.14BAvg. Daily Volume (30 days): 912,198Revenue (TTM): $2.57B
Net Income Margin (TTM): 23.91%ROE (TTM): 13.18%Net Cash: $4.83B
P/E: 57.28Forward P/E: 35.46EV/EBIDTA (TTM): 48.35
P/S (TTM): 13.75P/B (TTM): 6.7352 Week Range: $162.72 – $236.90

Departures

1. Progressive Corp (PGR): $257.66

Mariann Wojtkun MarshallOn August 28, 2024, Mariann Wojtkun Marshall, Chief Accounting Officer of The Progressive Corporation notified the company of her decision to retire from the position in mid-2025.

MarketCap: $150.11BAvg. Daily Volume (30 days): 2,431,869Revenue (TTM): $67.80B
Net Income Margin (TTM): 10.18%ROE (TTM): 34.45%Net Debt: $6.08B
P/E: 22.00Forward P/E: 20.53EV/EBIDTA (TTM): 16.89
P/S (TTM): 2.23P/B (TTM): 6.4752 Week Range: $137.59 – $260.46

2. Chipotle Mexican Grill (CMG): $56.93

On August 28, 2024, Chipotle Mexican Grill announced that Chief Financial and Administrative Officer Jack Hartung transitions to the role of President and Chief Strategy Officer, effective October 1, 2024.
MarketCap: $78.96BAvg. Daily Volume (30 days): 19,116,601Revenue (TTM): $10.66B
Net Income Margin (TTM): 13.23%ROE (TTM): 43.54%Net Debt: $2.79B
P/E: 57.54Forward P/E: 42.55EV/EBIDTA (TTM): 38.17
P/S (TTM): 7.38P/B (TTM): 21.0052 Week Range: $35.37 – $69.26

3. Honeywell International (HON): $201.64

On September 5, 2024, Honeywell International Inc. announced that CFO Greg Lewis, transitions to the role of President of Senior Vice President of Honeywell  Accelerator and as a Senior Advisor to Chairman and CEO Vimal Kapur.

MarketCap: $132.97BAvg. Daily Volume (30 days): 2,716,922Revenue (TTM): $37.33B
Net Income Margin (TTM): 15.49%ROE (TTM): 32.74%Net Debt: $19.22B
P/E: 23.30Forward P/E: 18.12EV/EBIDTA (TTM): 16.88
P/S (TTM): 3.56P/B (TTM): 7.7352 Week Range: $174.88 – $220.79

4. Apple  (AAPL): $220.69

0001513362On August 26, 2024, Apple announced that Chief Financial Officer Luca Maestri will transition from his role on January 1, 2025.

MarketCap: $3.29TAvg. Daily Volume (30 days): 55,900,977Revenue (TTM): $385.60B
Net Income Margin (TTM): 26.44%ROE (TTM): 160.58%Net Cash: $51.74B
P/E: 33.01Forward P/E: 29.07EV/EBIDTA (TTM): 24.57
P/S (TTM): 8.88P/B (TTM): 50.3052 Week Range: $164.08 – $237.23

5. Citigroup (C): $59.90 

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On September 4, 2024, Johnbull Okpara informed Citigroup that he would resign from his position as Chief Accounting Officer effective September 10, 2024.

MarketCap: $111.40BAvg. Daily Volume (30 days): 13,522,946Revenue (TTM): $69.75B
Net Income Margin (TTM): 11.89%ROE (TTM): 4.04%Net Debt: N/A
P/E: 16.43Forward P/E: 8.26EV/EBIDTA (TTM): N/A
P/S (TTM):  1.48P/B (TTM): 0.6052 Week Range: $38.17 – $67.81

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